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Do you still think GalCiv 1 is fun even with GalCiv II out?

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The Fellowship Halls (Fellowship of the Ring Empire Thread)

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#1600 by Veteran Terl - 1/19/2004 1:51:35 PM

I think that Terl summarized every thing, bye.

The only thing I summarized was my opinion on the matter. No where in the post did I say that was how the Fellowship thought about it. Good grief!

#1601 by Veteran Disciple777 - 1/19/2004 1:57:02 PM

Why you get mad, you left our empire without a warning and you expected me not to get mad, I don't understand why you are upset now. Anyways last post.

#1602 by Veteran Icho Tolot - 1/19/2004 2:00:59 PM

Anyways last post

Don't belive this

#1603 by Veteran Terl - 1/19/2004 2:02:19 PM

Why you get mad, you left our empire without a warning and you expected me not to get mad, I don't understand why you are upset now. Anyways last post.

In no way did I state I was angry, upset, or otherwise. I merely stated that others may be when they read you did it to allow them to have the lead for a brief time.

I did post that I wondered why you left. Gee, is that anger? Hmmm, seems like curiosity to me.

To me the issue is not you leaving the empire. Where I believe the error lies is in the fact you claim to have done it to allow SF to move to the top. You then follow that with the idea that you will come back after they have their day in the sun. That is the part I find wrong.

Again, no anger, just opinion. Everyone must do as they see best for themselves. I wish you happiness and good fortune with your new empire (if you look back a few pages you will see I said this once already...gee angry? I think not).

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#1604 by Veteran Theoden of Rohan - 1/19/2004 3:47:13 PM

Unless I'm mistaken, we have a new member! Gman Fboy, welcome to the Fellowship! Please stop in and introduce yourself to us. I'll update the Roster page on the website (

Link) to reflect your membership!

#1605 by Citizen Greldon - 1/19/2004 5:01:16 PM

Theoden: Congrats on making it back to the front page!

#1606 by Ambassador Ray the Wanderer - 1/19/2004 9:31:36 PM

Well, it seems I got my Crippling medal.

Would have loved that Ex-No 1 medal though.

#1607 by Citizen Nastavnik - 1/20/2004 5:27:41 AM

Terl decided that he may use the new Sartre Missile, you know, the one of the "doesn't matter class"

Hello Terl. This sounds quite an evil weapon: I guess it bores enemy troops to death

(although I usually get laballed as leftist, I'm not very fond of Sartre).

I couldn't play very much this week end(an optimistic way of saying not at all, I just thought/imagined my game). And now, I'm back at work

But I'm thinking about starting a painful/ huge or gigantic game. I read one of Sirian's AAR and the galaxy does look impressive. I just don't know if I wait for AP before starting or do it right away... I guess it will depend on how tired I am after work... I've never tried that big games, because I'm afraid it would take too long... For a first time, should I go common, rare or uncommon habitable planets?

Goodbye Shalom. Btw, I did not have the feeling that anyone was mad at you, at least in here.

#1608 by Citizen Sirian - 1/20/2004 6:06:12 AM

It has been such a delightful conversation with you, Sirian.In case you are not aware, I'm extremely turned off by your arrogance.

I didn't much warm to being called jaded, Ray, just because I am not interested in the card collecting game you've been excited about. I have a VERY low opinion of that type of game, but the game and those who play it are different things. I made no personal attacks against you, but now you've come after me. Why? What did I say to deserve that, in your view?

- Sirian

#1609 by Veteran Terl - 1/20/2004 7:37:48 AM

Hello Terl. This sounds quite an evil weapon: I guess it bores enemy troops to death (although I usually get laballed as leftist, I'm not very fond of Sartre).

I don't know if bores is a good way to describe it. It is if the weapon discharged his writings and troops were forced to read them

. I guess I envision the weapon creating a sense of apathy in the troops, one in which they really don't care what happens because there is no one to care anyway. BTW, leftist does not mean one would value Sartre by definition. After witnessing events as he did I can see why he developed his philosophy.

I've never tried that big games, because I'm afraid it would take too long

I am no expert by any means, but yes, I found after playing one huge map that they do take longer. I started a gigantic out of curiosity but stopped. I would rather post smaller games more often I guess. Just a personal preference.

For a first time, should I go common, rare or uncommon habitable planets?

This is a good question that I hope others would chime in on as I have only played loose/scattered and common. Are less common easier or more challenging?

I couldn't play very much this week end

I didn't get to do much either as we had quite the nasty cold snap and I had to get pipes thawed. We had no running water for a couple days. It is amazing to realize how much water you do use when you have to pour it from gallon jugs.

All fixed now though...

I was happy to hear from you Nastavnik. I, too, am back at work

. Alas, they just do not understand the needs of the galaxy...

#1610 by Citizen Nastavnik - 1/20/2004 8:25:48 AM

After witnessing events as he did I can see why he developed his philosophy.

Yes. I guess you're right. But, for what I remember of it (it was a long time ago, well, not so long, I'm not very old

), I could not agree. Although, like almost everyone else, from time to time he did say some worthy things: "l'enfer, c'est les autres" (which means "Hell --the place-- is the others", actually an interesting point of view)

Yes, I saw your post. Glad it's all back to normal. I just saw in CNN yesterday that it was really freezing over there (I'm assuming you're in the US). There was a short article to help describe the situation:

"Tandis que dans le New Hampshire, du côté du Mont Washington, la température a plongé si radicalement que les employés d'une usine de glace, Laconia Ice, ont dû se réfugier dans une pièce bien plus "chaude" : l'unité réfrigérée de l'entreprise, maintenue à -9° C."

To summarize it, it says that temperatures dropped so fast and so low in New Hampshire that the employes of Laconia Ice (ice cream (?) manufacturer) had to take refuge in a "warmer" room, and locked themselves in the their cold storedge room, which was "only" at -9°C

In order to help you cope with the cold (and other in your situation) let me tell you this(I saw it in russian TV when I went there with my wife for the new year, 2 years ago): int hte TV news there, they reported that somewhere in Siberia (forgot where, one of those villages that formerly wouldn't be in maps for security reasons, or something) there was a big flood, and water rose about 2 meters, leaving everyhouse with 1.5 meters of water in their ground floor. Unfortunatelly for them, there was a cold front coming. Since temperatures were below -30°C, the water froze! The journalists were reporting from inside a house, and we could see the living room entirely trapped in ice, more than 1 meter! Sofa, tables, TV, everything in ice. His conclusion was that these people were looking forward for the spring (I'll bet they were) when the ice would melt, in just a few months!!!

Getting back to Galciv: thanks for your thoughts on my incoming game. I'm curius to try hoping to quietly develop in a faraway location, hopefylly out of range for a while. But I cannot imagine finishing it in less than a week.

I've got to go back to work for a while: the government wants to start selling the parisian airports to the private sector, and my job is to try to explain to its employees just how they're going to be eaten --raw-- (it's a french expression, I'm not sure how to translate it, but I'm sure you get the idea). Probably many strikes in the near future. (and even more than that since they want to do the same thing to EDF, which produces electrecity: california and Italy, here we come

--- aaaiiii, just bumped my head by walking in the dark !

)
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#1611 by Veteran Terl - 1/20/2004 8:38:56 AM

I do not envy you your job

It may prove to be a bumpy road for employees and passengers for quite a time if they privatize the airports.

I have always wanted to visit Russia; now I know to never go in the winter

. I had an opportunity to go may years ago but it was in the midst of the cold war and I could not get the proper permissions. Someday maybe...

But I cannot imagine finishing it in less than a week.

That is why I play on smaller maps. I can get the smaller ones done in a night, maybe two, where the huge took longer. I am still getting used to different strategies and keep trying new ones. I enjoyed reading the succession game that Sirian is doing, and I have learned a great deal from that game. I also like the strategies in the strategy forum. They have a lot of good ideas too.

Have a good day at work, and have fun explaining being "eaten" to the workers.

#1612 by Veteran Theoden of Rohan - 1/20/2004 8:44:35 AM

Good morning, everybody!

I was busy last night, so no GalCiv for me. Hopefully I can get something in tonight!

Thanks for the congrats, Greldon! I can't believe I'm still in the top 25! I see they have introduced some of the new medals and they are a bit buggy. I'm sure they will get things straightened out soon. Ray, great job on getting your Crippling medal! Might I ask how you went from Challenging to Crippling? Did you talk to Stardock? Or did they just finally figure out how to average the difficulty better?

Nastavnik: For a first-time Gigantic map, I'd certainly go something less than common, say Uncommon or Occasional. Rare might make the game a little slow, but if you go Common or above, the AI will out-colonize you and you might find the game really hard! By the way, that was a really interesting story about the Siberian town. I can't imagine a house trapped in ice!

It's going to be a busy day at work today. Hopefully, I'll be able to sneak in here a few times!

#1613 by Citizen Nastavnik - 1/20/2004 8:47:08 AM

Have a good day at work, and have fun explaining being "eaten" to the workers.

You too Terl

Maybe I could suggest them to bring some bbq sauce...

As for Russia, yes it's cold. But Beautiful. Moscow, and specially St Petersburg (Leningrad). And in spite of the cold, I must say going there in winter was great: first because that's really how I imagined that country: frozen. I "remember" napoleon troups freezing in their way back. And the nazi's freezing to death around Leningrad (there are actually milestones around the city: "the line the nazis never crossed"). The second reason is that now I want to go back in summer, or at least spring time --- so that my feet won't freeze.
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#1614 by Citizen Nastavnik - 1/20/2004 8:50:05 AM

Nastavnik: For a first-time Gigantic map, I'd certainly go something less than common, say Uncommon or Occasional. Rare might make the game a little slow, but if you go Common or above, the AI will out-colonize you and you might find the game really hard! By the way, that was a really interesting story about the Siberian town. I can't imagine a house trapped in ice

Thks for the piece of advice Theoden. I think I'll go with uncommon (my usual setting in all map sizes).
And yes, it was quite impressive to see it on TV.

#1615 by Veteran Terl - 1/20/2004 8:51:35 AM

Maybe I could suggest them to bring some bbq sauce...

Not barbecue sauce! For goodness sake, I have been to Paris a few times. Use some of the delicious French sauces with lots of cream and butter. Yummy!!

#1616 by Citizen Nastavnik - 1/20/2004 9:06:02 AM

I just completed my previous post while you wrote yours.

Not barbecue sauce! For goodness sake, I have been to Paris a few times. Use some of the delicious French sauces with lots of cream and butter. Yummy!!

Well, I know the sauces with lots of french cheese, but those cheese smell so bad I thought it would be really evil to put them in it...
Anyway, I shouldn't make it too confortable for them: after all the're the ones being eaten!

And, if you liked Paris, I promise you you will like Leningrad. The cold put aside (quite hard to do I know

) it is a magnificent city. It can remember you of Paris (the style of some of the old buildings), it has huge museums, many bridges. And many canals (I'm not sure it's english). The city is a mix of Paris and venice, or amsterdam. And those incredible orthodoxs cathedrals (and I am not a believer, but God! they're beautiful). And so many things happened there too. I am waiting for the opportunity (i.e. money) to go there again...

#1617 by Ambassador Ray the Wanderer - 1/20/2004 9:09:27 AM

Ray, great job on getting your Crippling medal! Might I ask how you went from Challenging to Crippling? Did you talk to Stardock? Or did they just finally figure out how to average the difficulty better?

I did absolutely nothing, Theoden. It just appeared.

And when were you a top25 player, Nastavik?

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#1618 by Veteran Theoden of Rohan - 1/20/2004 9:11:25 AM

I did absolutely nothing, Theoden. It just appeared.

Maybe they are doing a recalc, then...I've noticed several people who now have Maso shields. Apparently they have fixed the averaging formula!!

#1619 by Veteran Terl - 1/20/2004 9:19:06 AM

And, if you liked Paris, I promise you you will like Leningrad

I did like Paris very much. Believe me Leningrad is on my list as is Moscow. My problem is the same--money. It takes so much these days. I also would like to be able to speak the language somewhat, even if as a child. I only speak english and some German (great for when I was in Germany but not so good other places).

I also enjoyed Lyon and the wonderful drive from Paris to Lyon. Oh, and as for cathedrals... Leningrad has better than Chartres?

#1620 by Citizen Nastavnik - 1/20/2004 9:30:28 AM

I also enjoyed Lyon and the wonderful drive from Paris to Lyon. Oh, and as for cathedrals... Leningrad has better than Chartres?

Not better. But very different.

And when were you a top25 player, Nastavik?

It's when reding you that I noticed the little medal. I could swear it was not there a few minutes ago. Maybe the powers that be decided to consider all the games I play only in my mind, due to lack of time to really play galciv!

If it's a bug, it's a nice one

. Even thogh I guess it's not very honourable to wear a medal one didn't deserve. I must have been staring at some beautiful alien female when they pined that one to my chest.
If it's not a bug, I don't know. I don't think I ever was in the 25's, even though I registered quite soon (id # 581) and first submitted april 2nd. But my 6 or 8 points score would hardly put me anywhere in the metaverse.

I'll see if it gets corrected in this post

Edit: the medal is still there! I had no idea I was that good at some point ... It's a pity I didn't even enjoy it since I never realised that ... On the other hand since I'm also a former 3000 and something, that would suggest quite a drop. I guess that's what they meant by "how hard the mighty fall...". But I'm slowly working my way up again...
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#1621 by Veteran Theoden of Rohan - 1/20/2004 9:35:34 AM

I think the Former Top 25 medal is a little buggy. Several people have commented on it in the New Metaverse Medals thread.

But, you deserve it, Nastavnik!!

#1622 by Veteran Terl - 1/20/2004 9:39:27 AM

Perhaps it is akin to Napoleon's theory that men would die for bits of cloth pinned to their chests. Maybe they are trying to induce you to play more.

#1623 by Veteran Theoden of Rohan - 1/20/2004 9:44:52 AM

Ahhh...

"Glory is fleeting, but obscurity is forever."
-- Napolean Bonaparte (1769-1821)

Nothing like that kind of wisdom.

And not to let an opportunity pass to post my favorite Napolean quote:

Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake.
--Napoleon Bonaparte

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#1624 by Citizen Nastavnik - 1/20/2004 9:46:30 AM

Perhaps it is akin to Napoleon's theory that men would die for bits of cloth pinned to their chests. Maybe they are trying to induce you to play more.

And thanks Theoden.

I've just checked, they appeared in all my posts, everywhere!

I think the 10 game winner with a score of 3000 shouldn't be there either. (unless it means 10 game winner, metaverse score > 3000). I only have 7 victories with a score higher than 3000. But I do have exactly 10 victories so far.

Well let's enjoy it while it lasts. Tonight I'll parade in front of my wife, with all my medals, so she can see how really good I am

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