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Do you still think GalCiv 1 is fun even with GalCiv II out?
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The Fellowship Halls (Fellowship of the Ring Empire Thread)
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#1850  by Veteran Theoden of Rohan - 1/27/2004 10:23:59 AM

So, have they fixed enough of the bugs in AP to make it playable? I might need to go ahead and download it sometime this week...

                          
#1851  by Citizen Nastavnik - 1/27/2004 10:28:38 AM



I just noticed that since I submited a game, my nice former top 25 medal disappeared! it was nice having it even though it was a fake .
Only a few thousand points (hundred thousands actually, but once it's beyond 100000, who cares... )to get to the real one.


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#1852  by Veteran Theoden of Rohan - 1/27/2004 10:36:26 AM

Yes, they seem to have "fixed" the medals. Sorry.

                          
#1853  by Citizen Nastavnik - 1/27/2004 10:37:19 AM

#1850 by Veteran Theoden of Rohan - 1/27/2004 10:23:59 AM So, have they fixed enough of the bugs in AP to make it playable? I might need to go ahead and download it sometime this week...


The only annoying problems I had were: a non buildable paladin (althought I sent my save to Cari, and she told me that it builded it fine on her PC -- I restarted the game I sent her, and still could not build it ... go figure???). One invisible bug star (towards the end, that caused a CTD and made the save I made & the autosave unloadable, but the previous worked fine -- I set it to save every two turns now). The third thing I forgot. Wasn't that important. Some people have been having more trouble with it, but on my machine it works fine and make things really more interesting.

Yes, I remember now: towards the end, and for +/- 10-15 years one of the new AI stopped all military spending! They went from broke to richest from being behind in tech to first, etc. It was a clear demonstration of how military expenditure can be a burden to a nation. In this particular case, the only downside was being invaded by me, a former ally (*treatorous smile*). It wasn't my intention, but the last bug (I noticed) is that all victory conditions are off, except military. I was aiming at an alliance vic, and was forced to "assimilate" my allies. In this instace, resistance was futile .

                        
#1854  by Citizen Nastavnik - 1/27/2004 10:40:47 AM

Regarding that AI, I must say that it was in an alliance of three (with me + altarians) and I had taken out it's enemies (or was doing it quickly). By the end of the war they had no ships left, they were like -3000,and I gave then 2600 in order to allow them to restart producing. Sqince there were no ennemies left maybe it thought the galaxy was safe and stopped those expenses. Well they should have know that sometimes a bug can make even the most trusted ally turn on you

                        
#1855  by Veteran vincible - 1/27/2004 10:45:49 AM

What are the new races like?

                        
#1856  by Veteran Terl - 1/27/2004 10:49:02 AM

AP sounds pretty good. I will be signing up for Drengin.net soon. I am waiting for the later builds...

I did not get to play last night as I had to do a bit of maintenance on my wife's pc. Hopefully the weather guys are wrong and the snow will skip on by so I can play tonight instead of cleaning up snow.

                    
#1857  by Veteran Theoden of Rohan - 1/27/2004 10:58:42 AM

Welcome to the Fellowship, Darviathar! Please drop by and introduce yourself to us! And don't forget to visit our website at this http://fotr.galciv.org Link

You haven't gotten any snow yet Terl? I would've thought upstate NY would have been hit pretty hard by now. Or are you talking about more snow?

                          
#1858  by Citizen Nastavnik - 1/27/2004 11:01:08 AM

"what are the new races like?"

Ugly


I don't really know how to describe them. The Korx Syndicated managed to stay to the end of my (small) game. They are the ones who stopped military spending.

The other ones (Drath I think) gave up right from the beggining, so I don't even remember their faces.

In the game I played I had the feeling that alliances worked better, with less repetitive wars. Specially the treaties window looks great now: it has lines going in all directions, all colors , all over the place. It's harder to manage having good relations with everyone, since there is always someone at war, and you can't stay pals to both sides. By the way, alignement seemed to matter a lot in that case (maybe it was just a coincidence).
And since minors are strong too, there is really a lot of people in the galaxy now, as well it should be.

Going back to the korx, they made a really nice start. We were friends almost at once. The only problem is taht their influence color is the same as the Drengin in the minimap, so I had the impression that the Drengin had, right of the bath, 2/3 of the galaxy under their influence (how cute their femeles must be, i thought, until I realized my mistake ).

And I had a revolution event, very nice: everybody was pissed off at me on my planets, and then revolution. Only problem: no planets broke off (as it is supposed to). May theory is that both my planets broke off ( ) so that no change was noticeble, except for the thousands of bc's I received: I guess the revolutionaries seized all the goods from the former ruler (an homonym of mine, also called Nastavnik ) and and sold it to the best bidder! I went from -5000 before to 10040 after... I kind saved me. . I guess one revolution from time to time is not a bad thing
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#1859  by Veteran Terl - 1/27/2004 11:07:46 AM

You haven't gotten any snow yet Terl? I would've thought upstate NY would have been hit pretty hard by now. Or are you talking about more snow?


We have some on the ground of course. I am talking about the latest storm coming today through tomorrow. I think the city will get hit worse than us in the upstate areas (I am about 3 hrs drive north of NYC).



                    
#1860  by Citizen Greldon - 1/27/2004 11:12:11 AM

AP sounds interesting.....looking forward to the final release.....I pre-ordered the CD.
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#1861  by Citizen Nastavnik - 1/27/2004 11:14:25 AM

I am waiting for the later builds


I don't now when there will be a next one Terl, but this one looks pretty solid to me (putting aside the 2-3 problems I pointed). there is also something of a bug with the rallypoints, but since I never used them I wouldn't know. It is worth a try, even like it is now. And I must say, it's hard to go back to "good'old" galciv. I'm eager to have some documentation on the scenario editor and triggered events. It looks really nice . I'd say it's reason enough to get Drengin (besides the supporting stardock and the fact that there is an incoming beta of political machine, which looks cool too).

                        
#1862  by Veteran Theoden of Rohan - 1/27/2004 11:23:06 AM

Well, that settles it. I'm going to d/l AP sometime this week (if I get time).

Terl: good luck! Remember to shovel using your legs, not your back!

                          
#1863  by Citizen Nastavnik - 1/27/2004 11:26:14 AM

Well, that settles it. I'm going to d/l AP sometime this week


I hope you like it!

Just to be on the safe side: It should install itself to another directory, but it doesn't cost anything to double check that... Neither does archiving your previous version of the game, you never know. (I mention this because I promise myself to do these exact same things everytime a new build is available, and I always forget. Including this time...)

                        
#1864  by Veteran Theoden of Rohan - 1/27/2004 11:37:16 AM

Good idea! Yes, I never remember to archive either...

                          
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#1866  by Veteran Terl - 1/27/2004 11:41:10 AM

I don't now when there will be a next one Terl


The way paydays work out, I will be getting it either this week or two weeks from now (drengin.net that is). I am trying to stretch my year as far as I can I am not in a hurry anyway. I have enough problems with the races that are available now

                    
#1867  by Citizen Nastavnik - 1/27/2004 11:49:05 AM

The way paydays work out


I remember those kinds of time-table-conditions. But since I started to work 3/4 of time, (and thus 3/4 of salary) I ignore it and hope for the best

                        
#1868  by Citizen Nastavnik - 1/27/2004 11:56:53 AM

Well guys, here am I talking, and I almost (but only almost) didn't notice the time: I'm out of here (work I mean) --- actually 10 minutes to go. I'll try to be back here once at home.

Don't work to hard or too late (which is a bit the same thing): you all must save some time & strenght to consolidate the empire!

                        
#1869  by Veteran Terl - 1/27/2004 11:57:01 AM

I ignore it and hope for the best


This time it is unforeseen things, medical expenses, that one can't ignore Must prioritize

                    
#1870  by Citizen Nastavnik - 1/27/2004 1:16:31 PM

This time it is unforeseen things, medical expenses, that one can't ignore Must prioritize


I understand. I hope it's nothing too serious. Anyway, I shall raise a glass of my genuine vodka for you, to better days and good health. And I will not forget to add a thought for a little more free time for galciv and understanding wives .

Thank god for now in France we have "Sécurité Sociale" which covers up most health things (except contact lenses and dentist, I'm still paying for the later, 8 months after he finished the work... --ie turturing me on his chair-- ). But that's about to change (they're about to "reform" it...) and we will find ourselves in a just as bad situation as 50 million americans (well, maybe not that bad... for now...).



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#1871  by Veteran Terl - 1/27/2004 1:21:23 PM

I hope it's nothing too serious


Not serious as in life threatening in any way. It is diagnostic stuff for my wife. We don't have a health insurance system like yours so we have copays, deductibles, and other out-of-pocket costs. Some companies have better, some worse, and some have little if any. Big issue here...

dentist, I'm still paying for the later, 8 months after he finished the work... --ie turturing me on his chair


I have always wondered what goes through a young man's head when he decides to do that for a living... really, dentistry, funeral homes, proctology.... I could see fireman, policeman, soldier...

they're about to "reform" it


Reform as in cut all benefits to save money?

                    
#1872  by Veteran Theoden of Rohan - 1/27/2004 1:24:31 PM

Just to keep everybody up-to-date about where we are:

1 Special Forces Wild Wombat 17 869 4366127
2 Fellowship of the Ring Ray the Wanderer 83 1176 4319512
3 European Alliance _G-Force_ 145 1170 3637770


Keep it up!


                          
#1873  by Veteran Theoden of Rohan - 1/27/2004 1:29:30 PM

I have always wondered what goes through a young man's head when he decides to do that for a living... really, dentistry, funeral homes, proctology


Jobs that never get cut. These are actually great careers compared to firefighter (dangerous), police officer (see firefighter), soldier (ummm...crazy dangerous).

Think about it...

Dentist: We all need to have our teeth cleaned and the most dangerous thing about it is somebody might bite your finger.

Funeral Director: Everybody dies. There's never a shortage of product to make money on. And nothing's safer, they're already dead! I've got a couple of funeral director friends.

Proctologist: Just like opinions, everyone's got one. And they need to be checked occasionally. Just watch out for the explosions!!!

Turn your head and cough, please.

                          
#1874  by Citizen Nastavnik - 1/27/2004 2:18:50 PM

Not serious as in life threatening in any way. It is diagnostic stuff for my wife.


I hope it goes well.

Big issue here...


Here too, unfortunatelly not for those in charge, I guess they don't have that kind of everybyelse-who's-normal-people worries. I guess they don't try to solve the problem, they're just part of it...

Reform as in cut all benefits to save money?


Yes, . Albeit they claim the contrary. But in the end, I know I'll be the one paying (moneteraly speaking) for their mistakes



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