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Do you still think GalCiv 1 is fun even with GalCiv II out?
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1- Yes
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The Fellowship Halls (Fellowship of the Ring Empire Thread)
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#1975  by Citizen Bam_Bam - 1/29/2004 2:13:02 PM

Not really. It is unusual for a submitted game to LOWER your score, unless the game score is well below the average score for your current 30-day block (e.g., you have ten 60k masos, and submit a 5k crippling score, the score for your current block would go from
60*10/sqrt(10)= 189.7k to
(60k*10+5k)/sqrt(11) = 182.4k).

I doubt that any FotR folks are submitting games that far below their current 30-day average. Even if they were, the 250k decrease is too high for that to be the cause. Must be something in the metaverse update that will likely shake out in the next day or so.

                      
#1976  by Citizen Bam_Bam - 1/29/2004 2:14:21 PM

Oh--ok Theoden. I did not remember the periodic forced recount (most of us RB types are not that long in the tooth around here)

                      
#1977  by Citizen Nastavnik - 1/29/2004 2:16:29 PM

So we progressively lose our past "good months" (where big increases in the score were made)

On a completelly different subject, I have a question:
Wraith 717 posted in the bug report thread that "when you have traded for trade goods and that civilaziton gets destroyed you lose those. This used to not happen"

I didn't know that! It makes protecting minor civs more important (if you bought the trade goods from them).

Can anyone confirm that? And if so, do you know if you invade one civ you keep the trade goods you bought from them? And is there a way to know if a civ has produced or leased a trade good?



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#1978  by Citizen Exar Kuun - 1/29/2004 2:17:37 PM

Theoden,

When is the next metaverse review out? we want more!!!

                      
#1979  by Citizen KEmperor - 1/29/2004 2:25:11 PM

Hmm, maybe you should ask in the Metaverse Review thread....

                      
#1980  by Citizen Exar Kuun - 1/29/2004 2:26:46 PM

A good point point,

                      
#1981  by Veteran Theoden of Rohan - 1/29/2004 2:34:12 PM

The long awaited Metaverse Review is out!

http://metaversereview.joeuser.com Link

Headlines Include:

~ Empires secretly planning changes
~ Metaverse experiences Recalc
~ Realms Beyond surpasses 2 million points


And Much More!

                          
#1982  by Citizen Nastavnik - 1/29/2004 2:42:27 PM

Great review Theoden!




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#1983  by Veteran Theoden of Rohan - 1/29/2004 2:48:15 PM

Thanks! I didn't have a lot of time to find any pictures. Just too busy here at work. I think the Review is much better when there are photos...

                          
#1984  by Citizen Exar Kuun - 1/29/2004 2:49:31 PM

Great review Theoden!


Indeed



                      
#1985  by Citizen Greldon - 1/29/2004 3:11:36 PM

It's probably nothing more than a Metaverse-wide recalc.


I think ours was the only one, at least SF's score didn't change at all.

Yes, it's scary!

                          
#1986  by Citizen Jaws the Wayfarer - 1/29/2004 3:14:58 PM

Greldon..

DOn't know if you missed it, but I didn't receive an email from you

                          
#1987  by Citizen Jaws the Wayfarer - 1/29/2004 3:22:31 PM

Ignore previous post got your email from Special Forces thread.. you will receive something shortly.

                          
#1988  by Citizen Greldon - 1/29/2004 3:24:11 PM

#1986 by Citizen Jaws the Wayfarer - 1/29/2004 3:14:58 PM Greldon..DOn't know if you missed it, but I didn't receive an email from you


I saw it Jaws. I posted my email address in the SF thread this morning. I don't know why my email didn't go through yesterday, It still hasn't come back. Here's my email: jbrennan@austin.rr.com Email Let's see if I can receive one from you. I appreciate the effort.

                          
#1989  by Citizen KEmperor - 1/29/2004 3:24:24 PM

I think ours was the only one, at least SF's score didn't change at all.


Well, the MWC dropped something like 100,000 points!

                      
#1990  by Veteran Theoden of Rohan - 1/29/2004 3:26:10 PM

From the Metaverse Review:

Many have noticed a decline in their empire's score. It is thought that a Metaverse-wide Recalculation may have occured during the server work on January 28. If this is so, overlords who have not submitted in a long time will have their scores recalculated, dropping their scores due to the degrading formula. This will cause many empires who have a large population of non-submitting members to notice a significant drop in empire score. Though unverified, this phenomenon has been known to occur and affect the Metaverse from time to time.


Since SpecFor has around a 100% activity rate and no players who aren't submitting anymore, they aren't seeing the same degrading of scores that the 'older' empires are (MWC, Fellowship, GROSS, etc)

Accidentally hit Enter! Doh!
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#1991  by Citizen Greldon - 1/29/2004 3:27:01 PM

Well, the MWC dropped something like 100,000 points!


I stand corrected, sorry.

                          
#1992  by Citizen musicfan55 - 1/29/2004 6:15:17 PM

The empire score is relatively more affected by decay than the individual metaverse score. This is because the score is divided into 30 day blocks with each "old" block experiencing a 5% metaverse decay each 30 days. The personal profile score, which is used in team competition (Top Empires), has a 10% personal profile decay per old block each 30 days. In other words, there is more of a penalty for inactivity in the empire competition than in the individual metaverse scores. Hope this helps.

                          
#1993  by Citizen musicfan55 - 1/29/2004 6:19:21 PM

When I joined the FotR, we were number 2 behind the Pirates, then were number 1 a long time. Our heavy recalc means FotR empire is not only a great place to be active, but also a great place to retire. Now . . . submit some games and recruit new members.

                          
#1994  by Citizen Exar Kuun - 1/29/2004 6:20:02 PM

but also a great place to retire




                      
#1995  by Citizen Wild Wombat - 1/29/2004 6:26:13 PM

Ack! Anywhere here an long-in-the-tooth Metaverse player can retire? Thinking of changing my nick from Wild Wombat to Old Wombat, sitting back on the porch, goin' fishing, reading Tolkien...

                          
#1996  by Citizen Wild Wombat - 1/29/2004 8:28:55 PM

But before I go...more TRUTH! http://gcconfidential.joeuser.com Link

                          
#1997  by Ambassador Ray the Wanderer - 1/29/2004 9:44:38 PM

Ouch, the recalc sure took off a bunch of points from the Fellowship.

Well, it's not surprising though as we do have quite a few dormant vets.

That gives me an idea. They should give a medal to players who have submitted games for a year running.

                        
#1998  by Citizen musicfan55 - 1/29/2004 10:26:23 PM

Hey Ray. Good to see you post. Ooooh vinicible, I like that black shield - you soooooooo bad. Wombie and I still have wimpy orange. .

OK, tomorrow I will finish that gig maso for another 60k. I certainly don't want to become a "dormant vet" - is that contagious?

                          
#1999  by Citizen Greldon - 1/29/2004 11:27:06 PM

Looks like we'd better get busy....So here's 60K!

I certainly don't want to become a "dormant vet" - is that contagious?


It's not contagious......but once you get it, it's very hard to cure.

                          
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