| Well, fixing the count would be real nice as I stated in CM's old post relating to this, but I have mixed feelings on the score cap. It does prevent people playing maso from trying to milk the system for all it is worth so we don't have players trying to wring every drop out of the game when they know once they reach 60,000 they cannot go for 70K, 80K, or whatever the non-capped limit would be. Afterall, one 60K is as good as another. Now we just have non-maso players trying to milk the system for all it is worth with 60K crip games.But the current cap also leads to a good deal of stagnation in the Meta, as my last few Difficulty Reports have been illustrating. The high end of the pack is basically how many 60K games one can throw on the pile. That is a bit boring, but I also have to think what a nightmare unrestricted scoring maso would be. So with people finding a way to get 60K on crippling (which was a much lower scoring level pre-AP, but I did think back when that the maso scoring spike was way too big compared to other levels), maybe the cap needs to be raised a bit. If the cycle of score inflation is destined to continue (I just wish it wouldn't, but I have been saying that since version 1.03 way back when nearly a year ago), maybe make the maso gold standard a 100,000. |
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I don't know if raising the cap is the right thing to do. Part of the reason that I choose to play at crip is due to Gerakken's reports that the top 50/100 was becomming all maso. I have seen comments made by others that playing the meta is pointless because to do so, you have to be a 60K maso cranker. I wanted to disprove the theory, or at least be the exception. By raising the cap on maso, won't this just accelerate the "play maso or get left behind" trend and convince more players to leave?
What about this? Many players play Gig/Huge/Large because they yield more points due to size, but play rare so they don't have to take on more than a few planets. What if the scoring variance was reduced for size, but modified for number of yellow stars in the game? Med or Large Abundant is probably as tough if not tougher than Gig Rare.
Oh, and as to "milking", the only thing I consistantly do to increase my score is make sure that I play it out to 2190. The other items together make less than a 5K difference for my games (small crip abundant), so I rarly bother much. I would be happy to see the 1/2 credit for short game hose go away, but I suppose someone would find a way to abuse that too.
          
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Thanks for the help Peace Phoenix.
I am looking foward to the 31st now. 
   
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Thanks for the help Peace Phoenix.
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Well, if my calculation are right, 26th of may looks like a great day: you will have movement that allows you to pass the 1 million points, if you have at least 2 60K submitted from here to this day ( one the 26, and one from here to the 26).
    
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If you are right I will have a beer for you on the 26th. (not Fosters though).
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This is driving me nuts...
In the last not even 30 days.. my score has deoped (at varous times ) by a total of at least 100,000 my number of games submitted is going like a (expletive) yoyo .. The last instance... (just now) I was on 49 games again.. and a score of 664,000 now after just submitting 1 game today of 60,000 my number of games has jumped up by 2.. and my score (on top players) has droped down again to 638,891 ... if you read my other msgs that i've written over the last 2 weeks.. in here and unmder "Metaverse woes" and in the empire forum you'll see why i'm getting so (expletive) pissed off.. its getting so that I'm scared to post another game.. as whats going to happen next..
because of all this i've dropped from being 16th to being 25th.. please.. please... get it sorted out for once and for all.. so that I can once again post games and know that my score won't drop be anywehere the amount it has..
I appologise for comming on so strong but i am really getting sick of it..
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While i'm complaining... howq many more games do I have to play mso to get my average level medol to change.. I now have played more than half of my games as maso or higher... and it still recons that my average level of play is painfull..
It seems to me like the metaverse is falling apart and needs a good look at before it destroys itself.. It used to be very stable
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| In the last not even 30 days.. my score has deoped (at varous times ) by a total of at least 100,000 my number of games submitted is going like a (expletive) yoyo .. The last instance... (just now) I was on 49 games again.. and a score of 664,000 now after just submitting 1 game today of 60,000 my number of games has jumped up by 2.. and my score (on top players) has droped down again to 638,891 ... if you read my other msgs that i've written over the last 2 weeks.. in here and unmder "Metaverse woes" and in the empire forum you'll see why i'm getting so (expletive) pissed off.. its getting so that I'm scared to post another game.. as whats going to happen next.. |
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this is what just started happening to me. I submit a game, i dont gain any games (i.e. stay at 57 or whatever i have), but lose 40k points. Submit another game, gain 2 games to my total, but only get 6k points......... its all very confusing
 
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| I do understand about my first big drop (was on about the 12th of the month) as no games in my second block.. but dramatic reductions 3 times in the month is rediculous... I just build back up to where i was and then it drops again... |
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there are irregularities in your submission rate:
- no games between 12/21/2003 and 2/6/2004 (near 1.5 month)
- no games between 3/12/2004 and 5/3/2004 ( near 2 months)
So you have potentially 2 blocks that can be empty or filled with few games whose movements have huge impact on your games. Currently, block 1 (31-60 days) and block 4 (121-150 days) are empty.
As example of the huge effet of theses 2 block: if you don't submit anything and a recalc occurs the 06/06/2004, you will endup with 759K mvpts, when you have currently 639K (+120K). The filling of block 1 (3 gamse in it) and 4 ( 1 game in it) give you 147K. The -27K are explained by the fact by blocks have lost games that are gone to blocks 1 and 4.
Hope this help.
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| Lastly, Gerakken has no humility today and announces he has joined the Meta admiralty. (Rear admiral, but it works for me!) |
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Ahhh lost 40k on a submission so I guess I would have to agree with you.
It has been foretold it will come good soon though.
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| Ahhh lost 40k on a submission so I guess I would have to agree with you |
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Is it you who have lost 40K or your empire due to a recalc on all members? Because your latest submission has increased your personnal score by 5K
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No the one before that I lost 40K.
I used to be 962k then I dropped 40K before adding another 5k.
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Ok Jackey Jackey, let's see what we have:
on 05/21/2004: score 952K
on 05/22/2004: score 962K
on 05/24/2004: score 922K. It is due to the fact that the block 1 as no games.
on 05/25/2004: score 928 K
on 05/26/2004: if submitting a 60K game, 1019K
What kills you is the fact that no submission was made between 3/23/2004 and 4/25/2004, a whole month. So when this whole month correspond to a block, you score see a drastic drop. But as soon as this month is split between 2 blocks, you no longer have a block without game, and it is good for your score.
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Thanks Peace, your prediction came true.
I gained 92k on my last submission.
I will be having that beer for you now.
I still think it is a strange system but I am glad there are those who take the time to explain it. 
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I happened to take a snapshot of the page 3 scores on June 14.
I noticed that Ray the wanderer had 83 games played and a score of 244240.
Today June 16, I checked Rays score and it shows 85 games played with a score of 251269.
Ray has not played any games since 2003.
I thought that the metaverse scoring problems were fixed. 
 
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Newfy eveything maybe okay older games were being dropped.
Ray may have played 85 games, 2 games were dropped. After the Metaverse was fixed the 2 games were added back into the total.
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| Ray may have played 85 games, 2 games were dropped. After the Metaverse was fixed the 2 games were added back into the total. |
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No you didn't read my post right. On June 14 two days ago he had 2 games less than he has today. How is that possible? The Metaverse was fixed about a month ago.
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