It is my pleasure as a new senator of the MWC to congratulate all good peeople of fertile lands with incredible success that our empire achieved in the recent past.
We are not the fastest growing empire but the quickest to rise in ratings. Opportunities are excellent for new (and seasoned) players to make their mark on the face of Metaverse.
We are not asking anyone to defect from other respected empires. We are asking people of midlands (of North America, South America, Europe, Asia, Africa, Australia, Japan, all islands) to join MWC. If desire to help a real and noble cause will regretfully make you leave existing empire so be it. Be strong in your true aligence.
We defeated G.R.O.S.S, others are shaking seeing MWC make it's way up.
Celebrate if you are an MWC member. Join us and we shall go together to the glorious future of the Mid Western Confederation.
(Pontius, you can do your alien racial scam and polute this thread with silly claims).
Alex
Iowa City
       
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#1
by Citizen Trelane - 5/18/2003 8:05:44 PM
We're ahead of yoyou haven't noticed. 
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Now, now, let's not be judgemental, as some of us Midwesterners like me benefitted from this scoring mechanism (even though I didn't realize it was a scoring gimmick at the time, I just like running up my population numbers a bit).
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#5
by Citizen SoulWound - 5/18/2003 8:54:57 PM
"Laugh, I was ranked 13th before the questionable game
with a total score of 12k or so. If I had not milked
the score I would still have had a total score of 14k
if I had submitted it at the normal time. Enough to
put GROSS still over 3k ahead of you "
Only for the time being i asure you.
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Hey, now SoulWound (great name) is doing it. How do you guys write like poetry? I keep expecting to see every line rhyme.
     
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A partial quote from a post by Axels:
MWC stands for noble cause and fair game. Your current position is a shining example of what's wrong with GROSS."
I realized 3 minutes after you posted that "polute this thread with silly claims" that in fact you'd just made one about you being ahead of us. LMAO foot in mouth #2. I thought about ripping you here for it but rejected that instead chosing to post it in our thread because I thought you couldn't handle it. But Now you make another totally silly claim to which I must respond:
That's an absolutely ridiculous statement regarding Staffa. I don't encourage score milking mainly because it will cause the player himself to become bored and quit. Ive posted it in our thread several times. I've also told you several times. But bottom line, It isn't illegal and it is up to the individual player how he plays. I do not have the authority to stop it. I will kick someone for cheating if it's proven he deliberately altered his game in such a way as to produce a higher score than is warranted from the stock version + any approved by stardock mods the player has. Playing an evil game does not allow you to cheat. That is our possition. Get it right in the future.
Staffa posted exactly how he did it and recommendations as to how Frogboy could adjust the scoring mechanism to hopefully prevent that very same thing in the future. Now who else would do that? We don't post our strategies anywhere else but here. We are one of the few empires that posts our strategies for everyone, not just us to read. Euros, and several others have their own sites which are not generally read where you post such things to be read only by themselves. In fact, you yourselves have such a site.
Staffa posted it for everybody when he could have just kept it to himself and milked it for all it was worth. Very few others besides the G.R.O.S.S. team would do that. Staffa didn't know it would milk the score, but he had a hypothesis, isolated a cause and proved it. Then posted it for all to get and try if they wanted. Staffa, did a service to us all as hopefully Frogboy will take his recommendations under advisement and change the scoring so as to stop that.
I'd say contrary to your assertion, Staffa illustrates the G.R.O.S.S. spirit and what is Right (not wrong) with G.R.O.S.S. and is a welcome new addition.
Well done Staffa. Well done.
It would seem that some just cannot handle things. You can certainly dish it when you're ahead, but you can't take it when you're behind.
You passed us once and you were all over this board with the junk. In fact, one of your members encouraged you on your website to come raise cain in our communication thread. We laughed it off. We didn't respond with any Ohhh you cheated. Nope. I just stayed up, got a game in as did EB, repassed you, kept you off the map, and promptly used your own smack talk to thrash you around.
You added Copernicus which vaulted you over us, the junk comes again. We added staffa, You again post the "We defeated them junk." and when called on it post sour grapes accusatios of foul play.
Perhaps you are just upset because everytime you post like a giddy lil school girl you've "beaten us" You end up puttiing ye olde foot in ye olde mouths??
But all these "That's what's wrong with Gross" "Oh they're milking." "Oh they're cheating" "Oh they will merge, change the name, then change it back and kick you out just for fun junk posts coming from you guys" sound like sour grapes to me. And none of them are even true. I responded the first time and got accused of bitterness. Now I know why? You accused me merely of being like yourselves, bitter because you are behind.
I did none of this. I did get on one of your members for lying in his post. That was warranted. Yet still no retraction. I doubt he's man enough to give me one.
Tell you what, Why don't we just disband G.R.O.S.S entirely since you obviously can't handle things. Sheesh. It's just a game. And a fun one at that. Why do you and a couple others have to ruin it for everyone? Why when you fall behind do you have to come out with the "GROSS is what's wrong with things junk? It's getting to the point where I don't wish to play anymore simply because of flippant idiotic untrue accusations and total hypocrisy. Total Sour Grapes from You Axels, Surther, and Idle.
     
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#4 by Citizen Copernicus - 5/18/2003 8:21:25 PM
Now, now, let's not be judgemental, as some of us Midwesterners like me benefitted from this scoring mechanism (even though I didn't realize it was a scoring gimmick at the time, I just like running up my population numbers a bit).
Well put Copernicus. I see someone in MWC has some sense. 
Staffa was considering joining you guys. Wonder what Your leaders would have said about him had he. Me, I'd have said the same thing I said above. Well done. Hopefully, the system is changed so we don't have to give up fun for high scores.
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Oh and G.R.O.S.S. members. Though I cannot and would not decide what you do, I would suggest not posting in MWC threads in the future. It's clear they can dish out the smack but cannot handle it. This will be posted in our threads as well.
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Why is it that GROSS must put their two cents in every thread on the board. Didn't their MAMAs teach them, "if you don't have anything nice to day don'y say anything at all."
You see here in the Midwest we are raised on values. We respect our neighbors and love our enemies. Come GROSS let us roast marshmellows and sing warm songs.
Because you made a flippant accusation against Staffa. He, and then I, independently, thought it best to respond.
As to nothing nice to say, perhaps you should look at your own member with the "illustrates what's wrong with Gross comment" and tell him the same thing. Anyway. I've suggested not responding to you guys at all any more. As to what individuals do, is up to them, however.
Good luck with your empire and if you get to the Euro's first, Smash Impune's LeCar with that Midwest Monster Truck.
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Sy, Axel's in post 11 paragraph 2 above, not you.
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Step 1. Make a flippant untrue accusation on someone's character
Step 2. Get totally punked, bagged, owned and proven an idiot.
Step 3. Totally backpeddle, claim you were just baiting after it becomes clear you crossed the line.
Step 4. Hope it saves face because you know you've totally been had but you're not man enough to admit it.
You're just too easy. Anyway, I have asked, though it's up to them, our members not to interrupt your threads. Now Go cry like a baby. (sniff sniff) they're unethical. (sniff sniff)
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#19
by Citizen SoulWound - 5/19/2003 3:53:30 PM
Game Update
i started a new game:
Huge map
Painful
Lose clusted
Going fairly well, i'm not doing so good in the tech but my military is kepting me alive. Fight the Yor for a few colonys along our borders have put me into debt but i expect to rebound. I'm off of work wendsday so maby i can finsh it up by then.
"#6 by Citizen Christopher Packer - 5/18/2003 8:59:31 PM
Hey, now SoulWound (great name) is doing it. How do you guys write like poetry? I keep expecting to see every line rhyme. "
Well thank you
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#20
by Citizen SoulWound - 5/19/2003 3:55:41 PM
That's lose cluster, no edit here?
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#24
by Citizen SoulWound - 5/19/2003 10:59:27 PM
Welcome MOEJOE23.
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