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Do you still think GalCiv 1 is fun even with GalCiv II out?
758 votes
1- Yes
2- No


Request- If someone makes new Drengin Ships- Please make them Reddish ! :)
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by Veteran Duglis - 5/11/2003 7:03:09 AM

The current greenish hue makes them and the Torians hard
to distinguish at times.

Doug

                    
#1  by Veteran Duglis - 5/12/2003 8:08:44 PM

Is anyone making ships?

anyone at all?

hello?


*peep*

                    
#2  by Citizen Mikelangelo - 5/14/2003 2:23:20 PM

I never could figure out why the Drengin ships are green and not red.

                      
#3  by Veteran Duglis - 5/15/2003 2:13:19 PM

me either

                    
#4  by Veteran Duglis - 5/15/2003 2:48:13 PM

but the million dollar question is..when is someone going to do this? hehe

Is a ship editor coming where you can edit the ship model mdl files and pick an angle you want the ship to
always be displayed at instead of top down as well?

Doug

                    
#5  by Citizen pdifolco - 5/16/2003 9:05:19 AM

The only "ship mod" I did is to swap Corvette (that were big) and Frigate (that were small) entries in the ship list, to have ship sizes matched with ship power...

As long as we can't "extract" the ships into tga/bmp/whatever we can't easily "paint red" the ships, all have to be done from scratch.. Unless SD gives away the files, huh ??

          
#6  by Veteran Duglis - 5/16/2003 1:52:49 PM

you renamed the corvette and frigate?

where are those file names located?

Sounds like a good idea.


Doug

                    
#7  by Veteran Duglis - 5/16/2003 1:52:50 PM

you renamed the corvette and frigate?

where are those file names located?

Sounds like a good idea.


Doug

                    
#8  by Diplomat HawaiiFive-O - 5/16/2003 2:25:23 PM

Duglis, if you are still downloading the beta versions of the Writer, you can do this in about 10 seconds. Just open the Writer, go to the Ships editing screen, go to Corvette, change the Model from Corvette to Starhawk/Frigate, and do the opposite for Frigate (Model = Corvette). Save and write to files, you're done.



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#9  by Citizen StarDevilThrull - 5/16/2003 4:23:02 PM

I think I could do this (Drengin ships red), but it would be H-A-R-D... I'm talking ninja level hacking and a TON of work. I experimented last night with this some, but need to do some more experiments tonight.

I would hate to do all of this work only to find out that the devs are willing to do it for free.

Cari (or Scott or Brad or Alex? ) - any chance you guys would consider releasing a red color Drengin set OR would you be willing to release a pcx, or other formats, of the Drengin ships??? (preferably on solid black with no stars... angle doesn't matter but facing north would be best)

If I could get at a raw shot of the ships it would cut my development time by about 30% (the rest of the time being spent in photoshop recoloring and rotating / filmstriping them for the ship editor)

      
#10  by Citizen pdifolco - 5/16/2003 5:26:08 PM

Duglis
I did swap models for Corvettes and Frigates.
You can do as Hawaian said, or edit shippak3.ship with Notepad and swap the "model" entries ship06/ship08.

As for coloring models it should take 15 seconds with the base tga available, with any graphics program, but if you have to build one from screenshots it's a pain...

          
#11  by Veteran Duglis - 5/16/2003 8:25:17 PM

K ..I'll do what Hawaii said

Doug

                    
#12  by Veteran Duglis - 5/16/2003 8:56:09 PM

Thrull, That would be great IF ..IF you could do that.

I hope you get help. I woudn't want you to overburden
yourself, but it would be really nice to see.

Doug

                    
#13  by Citizen StarDevilThrull - 5/17/2003 11:24:25 AM

Duglis:

>I hope you get help. I woudn't want you to overburden yourself,

Thanks Doug. It kind of goes with my "super secret project" hehe It's something that I don't really *need* to do, but it would be a nice optional element... and I agree that the Drengin ships should probably have been red to begin with.

I'll think it over some more and do some more experimenting.

pdifolco:

>As for coloring models it should take 15 seconds with the base tga available, with any graphics program,
>but if you have to build one from screenshots it's a pain...

I don't know about *any* graphics program... some ar ea LOT easier to do recoloring with then others! Photoshop has a lot of functions to do this quickly and easily (color replace, hue/saturation layers, alpha channels, etc.), but yeah your point is exactly what I'm getting at - with the raw files it would take a lot less time.

The bulk of the project involves other stuff though - cropping, rotating, filmstripping, encoding... thank goodness there are a couple of utility programs already designed for this (ship rotater & ship encoder), but it's still tedious work

Plus my personal interpretation of the Drengin red shading may be too red for some or not red enough for others, etc. etc.

      
#14  by Veteran Duglis - 5/17/2003 2:52:17 PM

It can never be too red!
hehe

                    
#15  by Citizen Ichimaru - 5/17/2003 10:41:52 PM

i have an idea why they are green. In star trek the kiligons have everything be red in side there ships but on the outside they are green it cood have somthing to go with that.

        
#16  by Veteran Duglis - 5/18/2003 1:52:48 AM

could be..could be...but they MUST be red
hehe

                    
#17  by Veteran Duglis - 5/18/2003 5:50:16 PM

Thrull,
So...do you think you'll be taking on this ..and your
secret project after all?

be well!
Douglas

                    
#18  by Citizen StarDevilThrull - 5/18/2003 7:50:47 PM

Hey Duglis... I'm going to sit tight for another day. I shot an email to Cari and want to give her a chance to get into work and read it.

One way or another I am definately doing the super secret project! ...in fact I made enourmous success this weekend on it and I'm pleased as punch. With any luck it will be the first real conversion mod put out for GalCiv!

I learned a lot this weekend about the files and how they load and are referenced in the game... really good stuff. Still have no idea how to extract or compile the targa files into .mdl files though

Thank the precursors for the ship compiler or we would be doomed!

Unfortunately my wife was less than pleased at all the time I put into my little project

So for the recolor project I am still mulling it over, but it will be at least a week until I can do anything with it if I decide to go for it... unless somebody else wants to champion the cause

      
#19  by Citizen StarDevilThrull - 5/25/2003 2:26:49 AM

FYI - working on this... it's a laborous process though. MUCH worse than it sounds on forum...

Had a hard time with recoloring... a lot harder then I thought I would. Going from green to a deep red is not as easy as one would think
I fought between a blazing hot and bright orange-red and a deep murky dark-coagulated-psycho-shower-scene-blood red... finally I settled in the middle. I like it... opinions may (no actually they WILL) vary.

So far I have tried out the Drengin Colony Ship and Transport. I also have colored the primary small & basic ships - survey, scout, sensor, defender, starfighter, corvette, battle hammer, and battle axe.

There are technical details to iron out as well, you can't just use these in place of the current .mdl files, but I'm working on that too.

As soon as I have something resembling complete I'll be asking for volunteers to put thier GalCiv at risk with this new Drengin experiments... muwahaha

FYI - I will in all likelyhood NOT being doing any other recolor projects! If you are planning on doing a recolor project let me know - I can offer some useful advice to help you!

More when I have it to report!



      
#20  by Veteran Duglis - 5/25/2003 3:11:00 AM

great news. Sounds like you are doing super!

Keep us updated!

Doug

                    
#21  by Citizen StarDevilThrull - 5/29/2003 11:56:47 PM

Whew! Well all of the Drengin ships are finally recolored and ready for beta testing.

Here's a screencap: http://www.cdgroup.org/forums/tbs/gc/viewforum.php?f=42 Link

If you're interested in beta testing and willing to play a zillion games to observe the Drengin ships and if they move correctly, have all of thier icons, etc. then drop me an email (you can email me from my profile at the CDG site)

Thanks!

      
#22  by Veteran russellmz2 - 5/30/2003 12:13:55 AM

#21 by Citizen Star Devil Thrull - 5/29/2003 11:56:47 PM Whew! Well all of the Drengin ships are finally recolored and ready for beta testing.Here's a screencap: LinkIf you're interested in beta testing and willing to play a zillion games to observe the Drengin ships and if they move correctly, have all of thier icons, etc. then drop me an email (you can email me from my profile at the CDG site)Thanks!


you can probably reduce that to a quarter zillion games by removing all the races but the drengin at the race intel and alignment pick screen (just click the race picture and they disappear) btw, the screencap link goes to a forum. i see no pics
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#23  by Citizen StarDevilThrull - 5/30/2003 12:31:47 AM

btw, the screencap link goes to a forum. i see no pics


hmmm... lets try another link: http://www.cdgroup.org/forums/tbs/gc/download.php?id=66 Link

(Sorry, still new to the CDG forums )

Lets test email links too while we're at it...
email me: jvarnes@tampabay.rr.com Email


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