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Do you still think GalCiv 1 is fun even with GalCiv II out?
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scenario mapping
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by Citizen Jaggy - 5/30/2003 3:28:27 PM

Is there any way to create a pre-made galaxy ? I'd like to be able to create scenarios with stars in certain places owned by certain races, etc. Could it be done by loading a save game file or something similar?



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#1  by Diplomat HawaiiFive-O - 5/30/2003 3:42:27 PM

Stardock's mentioned that a Scenario Editor might be in the works. However, CariElf recently stated on the main board that "it's not on the schedule yet", so I wouldn't expect it for this summer's X-Pack.

It might be possible to do this ourselves, but the saved game files are hex-based, not plain text. Without a file map, it would be slow going. I've thought about tackling this, but if Stardock's going to be doing it I'd prefer not to throw a lot of time at a project that will be rendered obsolete in a few months.



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#2  by Citizen LDiCesare - 5/30/2003 4:39:30 PM

I hope if they don't do it they could at least explain the files grammar to us. It would save us the time of hacking it.

                      
#3  by Diplomat HawaiiFive-O - 5/30/2003 4:48:51 PM

I hope if they don't do it they could at least explain the files grammar to us.


That would be huge, but I can understand if they don't want to release that file format to us.

Imagine the damage one could do to the Metaverse if you could edit any saved game any way you like.

In fact, if Stardock asked me not to start hacking the files, I would respect their wishes. They have the integrity of the Metaverse to be concerned about. Me, I could care less, but I understand their position.

                    
#4  by Citizen LDiCesare - 5/31/2003 3:34:16 AM

They could at least explain someoen who showed their dedication (e.g. you) how the files work. Otherwise, whoever hacks them won't say it. Plus, it is possible they make some built-in controls to ensure file integrity so it is possible to check whether a file has been modified. Considering the amount of file hacking that exists in CtP2 and Civ2 (CSPL for example - live hacking of the program), I think the same will eventually happen in Galciv. And I confess I don't care much about Metaverse rankings.

                      
#5  by Citizen Eldin - 5/31/2003 3:49:43 AM

I don't really care much about the metavers ratings but since they do try and base the AI off top players when the top players just hacked the game that will make it harder to try and make a better AI as they then have to guess on who hacked and who didn't.



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#6  by Citizen LDiCesare - 5/31/2003 11:17:08 AM

They don't have to guess. They can put some checkers in the files (like summing all star coordinates and putting that number somewhere in the file, checking it again when uploading to the metaverse - if numbers in file and computed are different then the game was hacked).

                      
#7  by Diplomat Arturus Magi - 6/1/2003 12:58:37 AM

They don't have to guess. They can put some checkers in the files (like summing all star coordinates and putting that number somewhere in the file, checking it again when uploading to the metaverse - if numbers in file and computed are different then the game was hacked).


The problem is that simple summation and CRC-style checks can be recomputed easily by the hacker. Most don't bother, but it's not a difficult task.



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