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Do you still think GalCiv 1 is fun even with GalCiv II out?
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#75  by Veteran Qui-Gon Jinn - 7/2/2003 5:16:39 PM

Stardock has every right to do any kind of beta release they want. If they want to charge a $1000 for people to be in a beta program, and then people actually pony up the money, I say good for them. They are giving this to us for free, folks. Why are we even discussing it?

                    
#76  by Citizen Elden - 7/2/2003 8:18:20 PM

I do beta testing for other companies and always has been free, and I have found quite a few bugs.


The silly thing here is if you don't buy beta you get the final product free. Thats just plain weird.

          
#77  by Citizen gwyned - 7/2/2003 11:00:42 PM

Guys, it's this simple:

Stardock has created a special niche product for those people who are willing to pay for special features. Call it a fan club, call it a guild, call it whatever you wish, but for $30, you get greater access to Stardock products and upcoming releases. Part of this package is that you have the ability to beta-test Galciv releases before they go public. But you are not *paying* to purchase the right to play the beta release. It's more like with your extra access you have the ability to test out the beta if you want. And, of course, you get to play all Stardock's releases for the next year after you pay.

So please, stop thinking that for $30 you can buy the beta of the expansion, but get the full version for free. That simply is not the case!

                    
#78  by Citizen erik renersten - 7/2/2003 11:17:21 PM

wow, i had no idea this would create such a fuss. i was mearly whining cuz that's what we do best.

i think each side has posted his/her view ad nauseam. the stardock people can do what they wish at this point. if they have been keeping abreast, perhaps they can glean something from all this. hell, they can raise their children as they see fit. all in all, it's no big deal. no hard feelings either. i mean, come on, what am i doing here... really? i'm trying to get my hands on the much-anticipated expansion pack. oh well, maybe tomorrow i'll go OUTSIDE and see what's been going on out there. i hear there's a real bright sun and something called "sky". i'm told it's kind of like one of those suns in that game. you know the one... it's got spaceships and stuff. it's kinda, well, i forget.

      
#79  by Citizen Elden - 7/3/2003 3:35:12 AM

Guys, it's this simple:Stardock has created a special niche product for those people who are willing to pay for special features. Call it a fan club, call it a guild, call it whatever you wish, but for $30, you get greater access to Stardock products and upcoming releases. Part of this package is that you have the ability to beta-test Galciv releases before they go public. But you are not *paying* to purchase the right to play the beta release. It's more like with your extra access you have the ability to test out the beta if you want. And, of course, you get to play all Stardock's releases for the next year after you pay. So please, stop thinking that for $30 you can buy the beta of the expansion, but get the full version for free. That simply is not the case!


Thats not what I mean what I mean is giving the beta to a bunch of people (many of whom won't want use it) but not to many people who don't want the rest of Drengin but would be glad to help test the beta and find bugs etc. is a poor marketing descision

P.S. No offense stardock I love your game and this is the only thing I haven't thought was well done.

          
#80  by Citizen Shryke - 7/3/2003 4:54:49 AM

Is the beta out? I can't find a place to download it from on the Stardock central, and I have paid for Drengin.

All I see is GC 1.05.071, the bonus pack, multimedia and the PDF Manual. Am I missing something?



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#81  by Veteran SuChiUomizu - 7/3/2003 1:25:25 PM

It's up now. Make sure you have clicked 'Show Pre-release Versions' under view in stardock



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#82  by Citizen jeblackstar - 7/4/2003 2:34:59 AM

Until it's in Oxford's dictionary, there's no such word. And just so you know, gems like d'oh are in Oxford.



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#83  by Citizen xiahou - 7/4/2003 3:02:08 AM

Better get a new version- it's referenced in there.

      
#84  by Citizen Sephlock - 7/4/2003 6:54:48 AM

They are not charging the money for the beta, they are charging it for Drengin.net.

They just so happen to be releasing it early as a special perk to Drengin.net users. I could make an analogy involving the special stuff in magazines bought off the news stand as opposed to from magazines obtained via subscription, but I'm too lazy .



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#85  by Citizen Elden - 7/4/2003 8:53:51 PM

They are not charging the money for the beta, they are charging it for Drengin.net


Thats not the problem read my post (79) and you'll see what I mean

          
#86  by Diplomat fleabitfox - 7/6/2003 7:01:58 PM

Geeze, I don't know why people complain. Heck, I had to pay 10 bucks for the Star Wars beta, and I don't get jack squat! Well, I did get to suffer through all the crashes and weirdness, and report all the bugs.

Just wait for the *free* expansion if you don't want to pay, simple.

fleabitfox

      
#87  by Veteran Captain Jack Sparrow - 7/6/2003 7:41:22 PM

Thats not what I mean what I mean is giving the beta to a bunch of people (many of whom won't want use it) but not to many people who don't want the rest of Drengin but would be glad to help test the beta and find bugs etc. is a poor marketing descision


I'd that their decision has resulted in getting people to pay 30 bux to be a ginnea pig when they can wait till later and have the final product free. They are having mucho success at it. The subscriptions are rolling in. I'd say that is the measure of an excellent rather than a poor marketing decision.

                          
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